Iis igitur est difficilius satis facere, qui se Latina scripta dicunt contemnere. Hoc positum in Phaedro a Platone probavit Epicurus sensitque in omni disputatione id fieri oportere. Superiores tres erant, quae esse possent, quarum est una sola defensa, eaque vehementer. Restincta enim sitis stabilitatem voluptatis habet, inquit, illa autem voluptas ipsius restinctionis in motu est. Quamquam tu hanc copiosiorem etiam soles dicere. Itaque quantum adiit periculum! ad honestatem enim illum omnem conatum suum referebat, non ad voluptatem.

Est, ut dicis, inquit; Aufidio, praetorio, erudito homine, oculis capto, saepe audiebam, cum se lucis magis quam utilitatis desiderio moveri diceret. Qui enim existimabit posse se miserum esse beatus non erit. His similes sunt omnes, qui virtuti student levantur vitiis, levantur erroribus, nisi forte censes Ti. Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt. Terram, mihi crede, ea lanx et maria deprimet. Tum ille timide vel potius verecunde: Facio, inquit. Sint ista Graecorum;

Sed mehercule pergrata mihi oratio tua. Omnia contraria, quos etiam insanos esse vultis. Dat enim intervalla et relaxat. Quantum Aristoxeni ingenium consumptum videmus in musicis? Hoc etsi multimodis reprehendi potest, tamen accipio, quod dant. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus. Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Re mihi non aeque satisfacit, et quidem locis pluribus. Hoc ipsum elegantius poni meliusque potuit. Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam.

At hoc in eo M. An me, inquam, nisi te audire vellem, censes haec dicturum fuisse? Quid enim? Et ais, si una littera commota sit, fore tota ut labet disciplina. Tenent mordicus. Tollenda est atque extrahenda radicitus.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur. Nec tamen ullo modo

summum pecudis bonum et hominis idem mihi videri potest. Quid de Platone aut de Democrito loquar? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Cum sciret confestim esse moriendum eamque mortem ardentiore studio peteret, quam Epicurus voluptatem petendam putat. Quis enim potest ea, quae probabilia videantur ei, non probare? Intellegi quidem, ut propter aliam quampiam rem, verbi gratia propter voluptatem, nos amemus; Cur ipse Pythagoras et Aegyptum lustravit et Persarum magos adiit?

Refert tamen, quo modo. Multoque hoc melius nos veriusque quam Stoici. In schola desinis. Collige omnia, quae soletis: Praesidium amicorum. Idem iste, inquam, de voluptate quid sentit? Vide, ne etiam menses! nisi forte eum dicis, qui, simul atque arripuit, interficit.

Videamus igitur sententias eorum, tum ad verba redeamus.

Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus. Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Aliter enim explicari, quod quaeritur, non potest. Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. An dolor longissimus quisque miserrimus, voluptatem non optabiliorem diuturnitas facit? Sed venio ad inconstantiae crimen, ne saepius dicas me aberrare; Si quae forte-possumus. Conferam tecum, quam cuique verso rem subicias; Bork

Qui est in parvis malis. Quia dolori non voluptas contraria est, sed doloris privatio. Inde sermone vario sex illa a Dipylo stadia confecimus. Eam si varietatem diceres, intellegerem, ut etiam non dicente te intellego; Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Non autem hoc: igitur ne illud quidem. Intrandum est igitur in rerum naturam et penitus quid ea postulet pervidendum; Videsne ut, quibus summa est in voluptate, perspicuum sit quid iis faciendum sit aut non faciendum? Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Nam his libris eum malo quam reliquo ornatu villae delectari. Indicant pueri, in quibus

ut in speculis natura cernitur.

Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Mihi vero, inquit, placet agi subtilius et, ut ipse dixisti, pressius. Itaque mihi non satis videmini considerare quod iter sit naturae quaeque progressio. Ac ne plura complectar-sunt enim innumerabilia-, bene laudata virtus voluptatis aditus intercludat necesse est. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Themistocles quidem, cum ei Simonides an quis alius artem memoriae polliceretur, Oblivionis, inquit, mallem. Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt.

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