Rhetorice igitur, inquam, nos mavis quam dialectice disputare? Ita ceterorum sententiis semotis relinquitur non mihi cum Torquato, sed virtuti cum voluptate certatio. Consequens enim est et post oritur, ut dixi. Nondum autem explanatum satis, erat, quid maxime natura vellet. Graece donan, Latine voluptatem vocant. Ergo illi intellegunt quid Epicurus dicat, ego non intellego? Ut necesse sit omnium rerum, quae natura vigeant, similem esse finem, non eundem.

Neque solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Sed tamen intellego quid velit. Qui autem esse poteris, nisi te amor ipse ceperit?

Negat esse eam, inquit, propter se expetendam. Quem si tenueris, non modo meum Ciceronem, sed etiam me ipsum abducas licebit. Indicant pueri, in quibus ut in speculis natura cernitur. Itaque eos id agere, ut a se dolores, morbos, debilitates repellant. Neque solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Quis animo aequo videt eum, quem inpure ac flagitiose putet vivere?

Id et fieri posse et saepe esse factum et ad voluptates percipiendas maxime pertinere. Poterat autem inpune; Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Quae cum dixisset paulumque institisset, Quid est? Consequens enim est et post oritur, ut dixi. Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Quae iam oratio non a philosopho aliquo, sed a censore opprimenda est.

Ut proverbia non nulla veriora sint quam vestra dogmata. Primum divisit ineleganter; Recte, inquit, intellegis. Quamquam in hac divisione rem ipsam prorsus probo, elegantiam desidero. Non enim solum Torquatus dixit quid sentiret, sed etiam cur. Hoc loco tenere se Triarius non potuit. Quarum ambarum rerum cum medicinam pollicetur, luxuriae licentiam pollicetur. Aliena dixit in physicis nec ea ipsa, quae tibi probarentur;

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etenim nec iustitia nec amicitia esse omnino poterunt, nisi ipsae per se expetuntur. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Nam Pyrrho, Aristo, Erillus iam diu abiecti. Neque enim civitas in seditione beata esse potest nec in discordia dominorum domus; Illi enim inter se dissentiunt. Urgent tamen et nihil remittunt. Duo Reges: constructio interrete.

Quis enim potest istis, quae te, ut ais, delectant, brevibus et acutis auditis de sententia decedere? Atque haec ita iustitiae propria sunt, ut sint virtutum reliquarum communia. Nunc de hominis summo bono quaeritur; Aut, Pylades cum sis, dices te esse Orestem, ut moriare pro amico? Inde sermone vario sex illa a Dipylo stadia confecimus.

Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Quod autem in homine praestantissimum atque optimum est, id deseruit. Immo alio genere; Plane idem, inquit, et maxima quidem, qua fieri nulla maior potest. Immo videri fortasse.

Quid est, quod ab ea absolvi et perfici debeat? At hoc in eo M. Et hunc idem dico, inquieta sed ad

virtutes et ad vitia nihil interesse.

Propter nos enim illam, non propter eam nosmet ipsos diligimus. Tanti autem aderant vesicae et torminum morbi, ut nihil ad eorum magnitudinem posset accedere. Quid ergo attinet gloriose loqui, nisi constanter loquare? Ut necesse sit omnium rerum, quae natura vigeant, similem esse finem, non eundem. Ita graviter et severe voluptatem secrevit a bono. Atque ego: Scis me, inquam, istud idem sentire, Piso, sed a te opportune facta mentio est. Post enim Chrysippum eum non sane est disputatum. Quaesita enim virtus est, non quae relinqueret naturam, sed quae tueretur. Cum sciret confestim esse moriendum eamque mortem ardentiore studio peteret, quam Epicurus voluptatem petendam putat.