An potest, inquit ille, quicquam esse suavius quam nihil dolere? An dolor longissimus quisque miserrimus, voluptatem non optabiliorem diuturnitas facit? Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae? Ratio enim nostra consentit, pugnat oratio. Vidit Homerus probari fabulam non posse, si cantiunculis tantus irretitus vir teneretur; Sed fortuna fortis; Nihil enim arbitror esse magna laude dignum, quod te praetermissurum credam aut mortis aut doloris metu. Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam.

Ita multo sanguine profuso in laetitia et in victoria est mortuus. Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit. Haec et tu ita posuisti, et verba vestra sunt. Summum ením bonum exposuit vacuitatem doloris; Sed eum qui audiebant, quoad poterant, defendebant sententiam suam. Ad corpus diceres pertinere-, sed ea, quae dixi, ad corpusne refers?

Esse enim quam vellet iniquus iustus poterat inpune. Quid enim ab antiquis ex eo genere, quod ad disserendum valet, praetermissum est? Teneo, inquit, finem illi videri nihil dolere. Primum cur ista res digna odio est, nisi quod est turpis? Bork Iam id ipsum absurdum, maximum malum neglegi.

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed ad rem redeamus; Nunc ita separantur, ut disiuncta sint, quo nihil potest esse perversius. Tanta vis admonitionis inest in locis; Et quidem illud ipsum non nimium probo et tantum patior, philosophum loqui de cupiditatibus finiendis. Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Quid ad utilitatem tantae pecuniae? Quod totum contra est. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Itaque rursus eadem ratione, qua sum paulo ante usus, haerebitis. Qui ita affectus, beatum esse numquam probabis;

Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? Atque his de rebus et splendida est eorum et illustris oratio. Nihil enim hoc differt. Hic Speusippus, hic Xenocrates, hic eius auditor Polemo, cuius illa ipsa sessio fuit, quam videmus. Et ais, si una littera commota sit, fore tota ut labet disciplina. Quae quidem sapientes sequuntur duce natura tamquam videntes; Bork Videmusne ut pueri ne verberibus quidem a contemplandis rebus perquirendisque deterreantur?

Cur deinde Metrodori liberos commendas? Quamquam te quidem video minime esse deterritum. Hoc positum in Phaedro a Platone probavit Epicurus sensitque in omni disputatione id fieri oportere. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Et quod est munus, quod opus sapientiae? Qua tu etiam inprudens utebare non numquam. Quamquam haec quidem praeposita recte et reiecta dicere licebit.

Bork Equidem, sed audistine modo de Carneade? Cur igitur, cum de re

conveniat, non malumus usitate loqui? Quod autem ratione actum est, id officium appellamus. Qua igitur re ab deo vincitur, si aeternitate non vincitur? Aliud igitur esse censet gaudere, aliud non dolere. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora.

Nam prius a se poterit quisque discedere quam appetitum earum rerum, quae sibi conducant, amittere. Aliter homines, aliter philosophos loqui putas oportere? Eam tum adesse, cum dolor omnis absit; Quod cum accidisset ut alter alterum necopinato videremus, surrexit statim. Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis.

Equidem e Cn. Haec igitur Epicuri non probo, inquam. Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est?